In this mid-week episode, Richard discusses the rise of ‘Anglo-Gaullism’ as a prescription for Britain’s governing ills. Are its supporters learning the right lessons from de Gaulle’s experience - and do we really need to cross the channel to find political inspiration? Next, Lee responds to the latest flurry of articles about Andy Burnham’s ambitions to lead the Labour Party - but casts doubts on whether Burnham’s backers have learned the necessary lessons of the Gorton & Denton by-election.

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Since Attlee & Churchill is a podcast about post-war British politics - since Attlee & Churchill - and is hosted by Lee David Evans, an historian of the Conservative Party, and Richard Johnson, an historian of the Labour Party.

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