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It was a busy week at RSAC Conference 2026. The topic of agentic security was a very big one, whether you were contemplating it for securing agents you deploy in your enterprise or protecting it from malicious AI agents.

neXt Curve's Leonard Lee had an enlightening conversation with Raj Chopra, SVP and CPO of Cisco Security, about what the company is discovering about the path to enabling safe and secure agentic AI. What impressed was the humility with which Raj approaches the task. We are dealing with unknown unknowns in the age of agentic AI.

Yes, agentic AI is here, whether we like it or not, as a productivity tool or a threat.

Check out this conversation. Raj highlights some priorities and approaches that we agree with based on neXt Curve research. He also introduces some additional angles that CISOs and security practitioners need to contemplate in approaching safe agentic AI for their organizations.

AI security will require the cybersecurity community to think beyond its comfort zone. Yes, fundamentals matter more than ever, but the threats and the countermeasures are unknown.

We hope you find part one of this conversation with Raj Chopra informative. Remember to follow neXt Curve for the agentic security insights and analysis that matter.

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