Do we have proof that angels and demons exist?

Roberto Rios, a macro thinker and Bitcoiner, joins me to connect central banking, elite corruption, and what he believes is the spiritual dimension behind power itself.

We move from macroeconomics and investing into the darker implications of the Epstein files, blackmail networks, and systemic compromise. The conversation challenges the idea that corruption is random, suggesting instead that centralized institutions (financial, political, and cultural) may reflect deeper forces at work.

Questions of spiritual warfare, free will, and demonic influence surface as we examine why power structures persist and why reform often fails. Material explanations alone may not fully account for the patterns we see in global finance and governance.

Bitcoin is about more than money. It's about power, control, and the spiritual forces behind them.

You’ll Learn:

[00:00] Introduction

[17:12] Carnivore diet, oxalate inflammation, and why modern produce is nothing like ancient food

[33:07] Bitcoiners, Christianity, and whether atheism requires more faith than theism

[40:30] Epstein's Baal bank account, satanic ritual in the files, and elites summoning demonic power

[43:40] Demons feed off human emotion, every deal backfires, and elites keep making them anyway

[50:57] Epstein's blackmail ring, Trump's compromise, and CERN as evidence of coordinated elite capture

[55:54] Three true stories of demonic influence

[01:06:59] Island exile over prison, capital punishment, and calvinism

[01:26:20] God-given curiosity, a TB genome that stumped PhDs, and how The Big Short changed everything

[01:35:29] Roberto's case for holding gold and silver, the utility theory of value, and paper markets suppressing Bitcoin's price

[01:51:16] China's silver rush, the Shanghai premium, and the next Fed easing cycle as Bitcoin's catalyst

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