The “Leaders and Legends” podcast journey through our country’s 250th anniversary continues with the brilliant and award-winning author Edward Larson. His book “Declaring Independence: Why 1776 Matters” is a tour-de-force study of why & how the colonists and the Founding Fathers pledged each other “their sacred honor.”

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DuJuan McCoy, Owner, President and CEO of Circle City Broadcasting, sits down for an exclusive one-hour interview on the $83 million acquisition of WRTV-ABC Indianapolis and what it means for local journalism in Indiana. Circle City Broadcasting, an Indianapolis-based company, owns WISH-TV, WNDY, and WRTV-ABC in Indianapolis.

McCoy addresses the social media backlash that followed the deal, explains why the FCC granted a historic waiver allowing him to own three full-power television stations in a single market, and pushes back on critics who have framed the transaction as another round of newsroom cuts. He argues the opposite: Circle City Broadcasting has a documented record of adding news operations at every station it has acquired, and he intends to expand investigative reporting, grow the morning show, and increase local digital content across both WISH-TV and WRTV.

The conversation also covers the broader forces reshaping broadcast media, including the threat from streaming platforms, the erosion of advertising revenue to Google and Meta, and why McCoy believes strategic mergers and acquisitions are the only viable path to keeping local television stations solvent and independent. McCoy also discusses the importance of journalists adapting to digital platforms, his approach to retaining top talent in the Indianapolis market, and what he expects Circle City Broadcasting to look like in the years ahead.

Leaders and Legends is hosted by Veteran Strategies President and CEO Robert Vane and is part of the All INdiana Podcast Network. Find every episode at wishtv.com/podcasts/leaders-and-legends.

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On this week's leaders and “Leaders and Legends” podcast (#354), we interview Professor and author Richard Bell about his book “The American Revolution and the Fate of the World”. As we celebrate the 250th anniversary of our founding, we must not forget the impact the victories and words of American colonists had on thinkers and leaders around the globe.

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In 1824, one of the most enduring legends of the American Revolution, the Marquis de Lafayette, made his final trip to the United States. It was a triumph. On this week's “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we interview Hoosier historian Ryan L. Cole about his highly-acclaimed new book, “The Last Adieu: Lafayette’s Triumphant Return, the Echoes of Revolution, and the Gratitude of the Republic"

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On March 26th, former Hoosier First Lady and American Second Lady Karen Pence joins the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss the Hummingbird Charitable Foundation, which will host an event to detail its critical work for the past year, announce support for new causes, and throw one of the best lunches of 2026. For ticket information, please go to https://hummingbirdcharitablefoundation.org/event/

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The macabre dance between Communist leaders Leon Trotsky and Joseph Stalin is one of the most fascinating struggles for power in the 20th century. Not only did Stalin win, but he masterminded the murder of his bitterest rival. On this week's “Leaders and Legends” podcast, Josh Ireland takes us through the entire bloody plot.

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Professor Turley revisits the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss his latest, thought-provoking book, "Rage and the Republic: the Unfinished Story of the American Revolution” which details how the unique origins of our revolution set it apart from all that have come after it.

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Is American society more polarized than ever? How did the Founding Fathers handle division in their day? On this week's “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we interview renowned scholar Yuval Levin about his brilliant and compelling new book “American Covenant: How the Constitution Unified Our Nation—And Could Again”, and we do it courtesy of Marian University and its Richard G. Lugar Speaker Series.

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