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I’ve always believed the best businesses aren’t just built on profit. They’re built on people.

In this episode of The Heart-Led Business Show, I sit down with Nathanael “Tarzan” Rabbitt, founder of Conscious Body Recovery, to explore what it really looks like to lead with purpose, integrity, and heart.

Nathanael shares his journey from personal training to building a thriving recovery business centered on infrared sauna and cold plunge therapy, along with the lessons he learned about simplicity, boundaries, and scaling without losing your values. We also dive into how he balances compassion with structure, and why “people over profits” is more than just a mindset. It’s a daily practice.

If you’re building a service-based business or want to lead with more intention, this conversation will challenge how you think about growth, service, and success.

🎧 Listen now to learn how to build a business that lasts by putting people first.
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📌Key Takeaways
✔️The sneaky signs of burnout
✔️Why “hustle culture” is not your friend
✔️How to set boundaries without feeling like a jerk
✔️The myth of balance and what to aim for instead
✔️Creating a business that aligns with your values

📌About the Guest
Nathanael “Tarzan” Rabbitt is the CEO and Founder of Conscious Body Recovery, where he blends modern recovery science with nature-based principles to support resilience, clarity, and overall well-being. He focuses on contrast therapy, breathwork, and mindful living as practical tools for long-term self-mastery, sharing grounded, experience-based insights on sustainable health and performance.

📌Additional Resources
✔️Website: www.consciousbodyrecovery.com
✔️LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/nathanaelrabbitt
✔️Instagram: www.instagram.com/tarzan_vibez
www.instagram.com/conscious_body_recovery
✔️Facebook: www.facebook.com/nate.rabbitt
www.facebook.com/consciousbodyrecovery
✔️TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@conscious_body_recovery

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Up Next: Bron Watson, a nurse, educator, and founder of The Social Coach and The Serenity Project. She helps others navigate healing and growth through the “third space” where science meets soul.

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In this episode, I sit down with Brynne Tillman, CEO of Social Sales Link and author of The LinkedIn Sales Playbook, to explore what it really means to build a heart-led business in today’s world of selling.

Brynne has spent decades transforming traditional sales approaches into trust-based conversations, helping professionals move away from cold, transactional tactics toward meaningful, value-driven connections, especially through LinkedIn and AI.

We explore why outdated, pushy sales tactics no longer work and how her CHIRP framework (Challenge, History, Impact, Risk, Priority) creates authentic conversations that convert. Brynne also shares her journey from cold calling to building a referral-driven business through genuine connections.

🎧Tune in to discover how to lead with value, build trust faster, and create conversations that truly matter.

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📌Key Takeaways
✔️Why “detach from the sale” is your new sales superpower
✔️The CHIRP method: the anti-BANT framework you didn’t know you needed
✔️How to earn the right to sell
✔️Turning LinkedIn into a referral-generating machine
✔️Balancing heart-led business with healthy profits—yes, it’s possible!

📌About the Guest
Brynne Tillman is the CEO of Social Sales Link and author of The LinkedIn Sales Playbook and co-author of The LinkedIn Edge and Prompt Writing Made Easy, helping professionals build trust-based conversations using LinkedIn and AI, without being salesy.

📌Additional Resources
✔️Website: www.brynnetillman.com
✔️Email: brynne.tillman@socialsaleslink.com
✔️LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/brynnetillman
✔️Books:
~The LinkedIn Sales Playbook, a Tactical Guide to Social Selling. https://tinyurl.com/yc45h8r7
~The LinkedIn Edge: New Sales Strategies for Unleashing the Power of LinkedIn https://tinyurl.com/29ndzb2d

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From Web Design to Warrior Fuel with Trevor Nolan Bower

Trevor Nolan Bower, founder of Centurion Labz, has built a supplement brand that stands for honesty, transparency, and purpose. From running retail stores to creating a community-driven business, his journey is full of lessons on persistence, preparation, and heart-led leadership.

In this episode, discover how Trevor balances business and integrity, empowers his team, supports local stores, and inspires customers to achieve their goals while redefining what it means to lead with heart.

💥 Tune in to hear a story of passion, purpose, and building something that truly makes a difference.

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📌Key Takeaways
✔️How a hands-on approach and personal experience turned Centurion Labz into a trusted name in fitness
✔️Why preparation, purpose, and persistence matter more than flashy marketing or gimmicks
✔️The philosophy of building a brand that truly supports local stores and communities
✔️Lessons on balancing profit with heart-led leadership and empowering your team

📌About the Guest
Trevor Nolan Bower is the founder of Centurion Labz, building America’s most trusted pre-workout brand through transparency, customer feedback, and honest formulations. He helps people train with purpose and take ownership of their health, turning preparation into performance.

📌Additional Resources
✔️Website: www.centurionlabz.com
✔️Phone number: (717) 884-4254
✔️LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/centurion-labz
✔️TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@bowertrev | www.tiktok.com/@centurionlabz
✔️Instagram: www.instagram.com/bowertrev | www.instagram.com/centurion_labz
✔️Facebook: www.facebook.com/centurionlabzofficial
✔️Promo Link:  20% off on Centurion Labz products, use the code: Legion20
https://centurionlabz.com/discount/LEGION20

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School Bus to Seven Figures with Phil Risher
What if you could scale your business from $3M to $5M in just 24 months without losing your heart in the process?

Phil Risher, the genius behind Phlash Consulting, shares how he builds heart-led businesses that win, for clients, employees, and profits, while keeping purpose at the center. From performance pay to building systems that actually work, he shows how profit can fuel impact, not just numbers on a balance sheet.

If you’re ready to rethink growth, leadership, and money, this episode is your blueprint for a business that truly matters.

🎧Listen now, and don’t forget to 👍like, share, and subscribe so you never miss an episode of heart-led business insights!

📌Key Takeaways
✔️Win-Win-Win Philosophy
✔️Empowered Teams Drive Growth
✔️Shift from Hustler to Leader
✔️Systems Enable Scalable Growth
✔️Core Values in Action
✔️Profit as a Tool, Not a Goal
✔️Heart and Strategy Together

📌About the Guest
Phil Risher is the owner of Phlash Consulting, helping local service businesses grow sales and stay fully booked with data-driven marketing. With 15+ years in the service industry, he scaled a $3M business to $5M in 24 months before selling it to private equity. His work has been featured on Forbes, CNBC, Yahoo Finance, The Wall Street Journal, and Jobber’s Masters of Home Service.

📌Additional Resources
✔️Website: www.phlashconsulting.com
✔️Email: info@phlashconsulting.com
✔️LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/philrisher | www.linkedin.com/company/phlash-consulting
✔️YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UCVSuWJ-9UlN2DELnWClctxw
✔️Instagram: www.instagram.com/phlashconsulting
✔️Facebook: www.facebook.com/phlashconsulting
✔️Free Playbook : 11 Proven Ways to Get More Customers
✔️Books Mentioned
~Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell: https://tinyurl.com/4ejjuz3s
~Profit First by Mike Michalowicz: https://tinyurl.com/576khdd9
~Thou Shall Prosper by Rabbi Daniel Lapin: https://tinyurl.com/ye2yz45s

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Up Next: Trevor Nolan Bower, founder of Centurion Labz, is redefining pre-workouts with honest formulations and real customer feedback. He inspires people to train with purpose and take full ownership of their health.

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If you think lawyers can’t be heart-led… this episode might just change your mind.
On The Heart-Led Business Show, I sit down with Jane Muir, a Miami business attorney who balances high-stakes litigation with compassion, candor, and courage. From a family legacy of lawyers to starting her firm during the subprime mortgage crisis, Jane proves you can win in court and lead with heart.

We talk about why “heart-led” and profit aren’t opposites, the surprising truth about litigation costs, her 3x revenue model, the power of radical candor, and how hiring and environment shape culture.

🎧 Listen to the full episode as Jane Muir shares how to lead with heart, win with integrity, and make smarter business decisions today.

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📌Key Takeaways
✔️Why “heart-led” and “profit” are not opposites, and how math actually protects your integrity
✔️The surprising truth about litigation costs (and why most lawsuits aren’t worth it)
✔️Jane’s simple 3x revenue model that keeps her firm ethical and thriving
✔️How radical candor builds stronger teams and smarter client decisions
✔️The unexpected way environment and hiring choices shape company culture

📌About the Guest
Jane Muir is a Miami-based business attorney and managing shareholder at J. Muir & Associates, P.A. Recognized as a “Super Lawyer” (2021–2025), she specializes in commercial litigation, business transactions, and general counsel services. Admitted in Florida and multiple federal courts, Jane holds an AV Preeminent rating for professional excellence. Bilingual and deeply committed to her community, she combines legal expertise with heart-led service for businesses and philanthropic causes.

📌Additional Resources
✔️Website: www.jmuirandassociates.com
✔️LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/janewmuir
✔️YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UC64fXtUUs6AXnxAsmJSEQsw
✔️Instagram: www.instagram.com/jmuirandassociates
✔️X: https://x.com/JMuirAssociates
✔️Facebook: www.facebook.com/JMuirandAssociates

✨ Explore the Dialogue’s Treasures: Tap here https://tinyurl.com/jane-muir to delve into our conversation.

Up Next: Phil Risher, the owner of Phlash Consulting, helps home service businesses grow sales and stay booked. His work has been featured on Forbes, CNBC, Yahoo Finance, and The Wall Street Journal.

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Can you scale your business without sacrificing your marriage, health, and peace of mind?

In this episode of The Heart-Led Business Show, Dr. Travis Parry, bestselling author of Achieving Balance and Marry and Grow Rich, shares how entrepreneurs can build profit, time freedom, and financial freedom without burning out or breaking their relationships.

We talk about why money is the #1 source of conflict for couples, how stress impacts families, and the three types of business owners: those afraid to grow, those who sacrifice everything for growth, and those who build systems and boundaries to achieve both success and balance.

🎧 If you want to scale your business while protecting your faith, family, and future, this conversation is packed with practical insight and real-life wisdom.

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✨Key Takeaways
✔️Why money is the #1 source of conflict for couples
✔️The 3 types of business owners and which one you are
✔️How to grow your business without burning out
✔️Simple tests to see if your business truly works for you

✨About the Guest
Dr. Travis Parry is a #1 Bestselling Author of Achieving Balance and Marry and Grow Rich, a psychologist, and family expert. As a founder of Balanced Growth Inc., he’s helped thousands achieve financial success. Dr. Parry is also an international speaker, host of the Travis Parry Show, and a proud husband and father of eight.

✨Additional Resources
✔️Website: www.balancedgrowthinc.com
✔️LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/travisparry
✔️Email: travis@travisparry.comm
✔️YouTube: www.youtube.com/@travisparry
✔️Instagram: www.instagram.com/drtravisparry
✔️Facebook: www.facebook.com/drtravisgparry
✔️Podcast: The Travis Parry Show https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-travis-parry-show/id1588987710
✔️Book: Marry and Grow Rich: http://www.maketimeinstitute.com/marryandgrowrichbook

✨ Explore the Dialogue’s Treasures: Tap HERE: https://tinyurl.com/dr-travis-parry to delve into our conversation.

✨Up Next: Jane W. Muir, a Miami-based business law attorney and managing shareholder at J. Muir & Associates, P.A., was recognized as a “Super Lawyer” from 2021–2025. She specializes in complex commercial litigation and business transactions and is deeply committed to serving her community.

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What if putting people first was the smartest business move you could make? I sat down with Kris Austin, co-founder and CEO of Draft2Digital, to unpack how he turned a small tech idea into a global platform for 300,000+ authors, without losing sight of heart. From turning Word docs into eBooks to building a culture where employees actually want to show up, Kris proves that leading with heart can be both inspiring and profitable.

🎧 Watch the full episode to see how heart-led leadership transforms teams, delights customers, and drives business success. You won’t want to miss this.

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📌Key Takeaways
✔️How Draft2Digital went from side hustle to serving 300,000+ authors
✔️Why Kris believes heart-led leadership is the secret to business longevity
✔️The wild west of self-publishing: eBooks, print-on-demand, and author royalties
✔️Building a culture of empathy
✔️Why your first book shouldn’t cost you thousands

📌About the Guest
Kris Austin is the co-founder and CEO of Draft2Digital, a leading digital publishing and distribution platform for self-published authors and independent publishers. Since its launch in 2012, the platform has supported over 300,000 authors worldwide, helping them release more than 1.1 million titles.

📌Additional Resources
✔️Website: www.draft2digital.com
✔️LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kris-austin-1421862
✔️X: https://x.com/draft2digital
✔️Facebook: www.facebook.com/Draft2Digital
✔️Instagram: www.instagram.com/draft2digital
✔️TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@draft2digital
✔️YouTube: www.youtube.com/@Draft2Digital
✔️Podcast: Self Publishing Insiders https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/self-publishing-insiders/id1512791697

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✨Up Next: Dr. Travis Parry, a #1 bestselling author, speaker, and founder of Balanced Growth Inc., with advanced degrees in psychology and family relations. He helps business owners and couples achieve financial success and is a proud husband of 22 years and father of eight.

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From slap shots on the ice to strategy sessions in the boardroom, this week, I sit down with Dr. Dave Jones, founder of M is Good, a Christian advertising agency that has blessed over 1,000 ministries worldwide. Dave’s journey is as inspiring as it is unexpected—he went from a pro hockey career in Europe, enduring multiple concussions, to leading a business that blends faith, transparency, and purpose in everything it does.

Dave shares leadership lessons, balancing heart with profitability, and mindset shifts for greater impact. He draws from his athletic career, team-building insights, and practical strategies for leading with love, integrity, and vision.

For leaders, entrepreneurs, and changemakers, this episode offers wisdom, inspiration, and practical takeaways. ✨Like, share, and subscribe so you never miss an episode.

📌Key Takeaways

• How leading with faith instead of fear unlocks bold decisions and lasting results.
• Why radical transparency builds trust, loyalty, and high-performing teams.
• The connection between self-worth, boundaries, and profitability and why it matters.
• Lessons from pro athletes and CEOs on mental performance and executing vision.
• Practical strategies to make a bigger impact personally and professionally.

📌About the Guest
Dr. Dave Jones is the founder of M is Good, a Christian advertising agency serving over 1,000 ministries worldwide. A former pro hockey player in Europe, he blends athletic experience with performance psychology, coaching athletes and executives globally. With a B.S., M.S., and Ed.D. in Sport & Performance Psychology, Dave helps leaders and athletes achieve their vision through mental skills, performance optimization, and strategic consulting.

📌Additional Resources
✔️Website: www.misgood.com
✔️LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/dave-jones-ed-d-87847312
✔️X: https://x.com/themisgood
✔️Facebook: www.facebook.com/theMisgood
✔️Apple Podcast: R7 Christian Marketing Podcast
✔️YouTube: www.youtube.com/@TheMisGood
✔️Book: https://tinyurl.com/mu7su6da

✨Tap HERE to delve into our conversation: https://tinyurl.com/26y283wh

Up Next: Kris Austin, co-founder and CEO of Draft2Digital, a digital publishing platform launched in 2012 that has helped 300,000+ authors release over 1.1 million titles.

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