What happens when a family law attorney builds the largest family law department at a major Utah firm, walks away to sell LegalTech, and then decides within 10 months to come back and build something entirely his own — from zero clients to 10 attorneys, 3,000-plus clients served, and a national ABA leadership role in under three years? In this episode of the Trustcast Show, Zane Myers speaks with Ryan Gregerson, founding partner of RCG Law Group in South Jordan, Utah, about the philosophy, purpose, and practical systems that drive his firm's remarkable growth. Ryan explains why he believes most divorces should never go to trial, how a mediation fight over three used bar stools changed the way he prepares clients, and why he thinks every person getting married already has a prenup — they just didn't choose the terms. They also discuss the holistic divorce model that connects clients with therapists, CPAs, mortgage officers, and financial planners from day one, the tragedy of a client who took his own life that reminded him how real this work is, the time management framework that he says is the single biggest mistake solo attorneys make, and how his plans to scale RCG Law Group to $20 million and into five states by 2028 are already in motion. Ryan Gregerson is the founding partner of RCG Law Group, a family law firm with four offices in Utah and expansion plans into Arizona, Idaho, Washington, and Oregon. He also coaches law firm owners on business development and time management. Connect with Ryan Gregerson: RCG Law Group South Jordan, Utah Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Ryan Gregerson 00:54 From building a 35-attorney firm to selling LegalTech to launching his own shop 02:42 How he got his very first client at the new firm 04:10 What family law actually covers beyond divorce 05:52 How he stays positive doing work that is almost always someone's worst chapter 07:45 The Simon Sinek why that anchors the firm's entire culture 09:05 Why most divorces should never go to trial 10:38 When the friends and family of a client make things worse 11:48 Being part counselor and part attorney 12:46 Zero to 10 attorneys and 3,000 clients in three years 14:09 The holistic divorce model — therapists, planners, realtors, and loan officers 16:13 Helping a spouse who doesn't even know where the money is 18:55 Is Utah a community property state 19:31 Why he built a team instead of staying solo 21:20 The bar stools mediation that changed how he prepares clients 24:00 The client who took his own life and what it reminded him about this work 25:17 The next steps meeting after the decree is signed 27:27 High asset divorces and the tax and contingency traps most people miss 30:51 Why everybody should have a prenup 32:41 The most common mistake solo law firm owners make 34:30 How he got into coaching other law firm owners 37:09 The vivid vision — $20 million and five states by 2028 #RyanGregerson #RCGLawGroup #FamilyLaw #DivorceAttorney #UtahFamilyLaw #HolisticDivorce #LawFirmGrowth #TrustcastShow #BusinessCoaching #DivorceWithPurpose
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